Interview

Trumpet Artist Profile : Diego Urcola

‘Trumpet Artist’ is far too narrow a description for Diego Urcola. Perfomer, Band leader, composer, multi-instrumentalist and jazz educator are all monikers that should also be added. Born in Buenos Aires, Argentina, three‑time Grammy nominee Diego Urcola has been a member of the Paquito D’Rivera Quintet since 1991. Additionally, the oft‑in‑demand trumpeter performs regularly with the legendary saxophonist Jimmy Heath, the Caribbean Jazz Project and the Dizzy Gillespie Alumni All‑Star Big Band.

It was great to catch up with NYC-based Schilke artist, Diego for this interview:

Can you give a little background to getting started with the trumpet?

I started playing trumpet in my school band in Argentina when I was 9. I played in the concert, marching and jazz bands. The marching band routine had a New Orleans Jazz part so I started doing that without even knowing that I was playing jazz. My father who was the band director at the time, was a big fan of Sidney Bechet and he had regular jam sessions every Tuesday night at the school with some friends. Those sessions had a big influence on me because I loved the vibe and the improvised music that they were doing… so I decided then that I wanted to be able to do that.

When did you decide that you wanted a career in music?

Around when I was 14, I told my father that I wanted to be a professional musician. He told me that he was OK with it, but from now on I had to practise the trumpet for no less than 2 hours per day. And I’ve been doing that for the last 40 years…

What styles of music have you listened to most over the years?

After my “very early” New Orleans period, I discovered Dizzy, Bird and Miles and I got obsessed about learning the bebop language. I was also studying at the conservatory at that time so I was practicing and listening to a lot of classical music too. Later, already in the USA, I got into more modern jazz styles and also Brazilian, Cuban and South-American music.

How was the transition moving to and studying in Boston, and then later moving to New York?

Well, before I finish high school in Argentina I was already working as a professional trumpet player. I started working with singers, rock bands, musicals, and some orchestral work too. Also I was playing with my own small jazz groups and other jazz bands with musicians 20 or more years older than me. That was when I decided that I needed to move to the USA if I wanted to get better. I won a very good scholarship from Berklee College of Music and that helped me a lot to make the decision to move to the US. After 3 great years in Boston I kind of felt the same way. That in order to get better I needed to be in New York. That was 30 years ago…

I think that I may already know the answer to this, but what have been your favourite gigs?!

Paquito’s Band of course! I‘ve been doing that for the last 30 years! But working with masters like Jimmy Heath, Slide Hampton, Joe Henderson, Ron Carter, James Moody, Bebo Valdes and many others are highlights of my career.

How do your Argentinean roots influence the music that you make today?

A Lot! Especially tango music, the music of my home town Buenos Aires. Also South-American music in general. All music from Latin America has similar roots but they sound very different if you really study them. It’s very rich music, especially rhythmically. 

Can you talk a little about the horns and mouthpieces that you play, and the process of working with Schilke to find the right setup?

Right now I’m playing a Schilke HC2 trumpet with a custom 24B mouthpiece. The HC2 is for me the perfect jazz trumpet. Very flexible and with a dark but very rich sound with a lot of overtones. I have been playing very big rims for a while and I love the Schilke 24 rim. The regular cup of the Schilke 24 is too big for jazz so Schilke made me a 24B that is not in their catalog but it is exactly what I need. I also play a  Schilke 1040 Flugelhorn with a custom 24F mouthpiece. Before, I was never a big fan of the flugel as an instrument because most of them play out of tune, but the new Schilke flugels have perfect intonation and a beautiful sound.

Do you have a set practice routine?   

Yes, I start my day with about 20-30min of long notes. Then I go into a selection of exercises from different books like Caruso, Schlossberg, Flexus and Clarke that I picked out through the years. I play these exercises with different instruments: trumpet, cornet, flugelhorn, piccolo, euphonium, valve and slide trombone. 

How have you managed during this global lockdown? How do you think that musicians are going to need to adapt in the future to deal with may be a very different musical world?

It has been a very interesting time. In a way I have been busy doing videos for social media, home recordings, skype lessons and also working on the promotion of my new album “El Duelo” that came out on September 18th. I don’t think anybody knows exactly how things are going to be after this pandemic is over. All the Internet/Social Media things are interesting but they don’t come close to the experience of performing live. I hope we can get back to that very soon.

What advice would you give to young and aspiring trumpet players?

Practice, practice and practice…but also to diversify. To learn how to compose, arrange, record, computer music (sequencers, loops, samplers, DAW, etc…) and to produce content like videos, music for film and TV. I think this type of knowledge is going to be crucial if you want to make a living as a musician in the future.

What are you working on at the moment or in the future?

I just got a commission/grant from the Jazz Coalition so I’m going to start working on that. Also hopefully in the near future play live the music of El Duelo. 

Thank you very much for the interview and I wish everybody to stay healthy, positive and active until this pandemic is over!

You can visit Diego’s website for more information.

Information on his latest release, “El Duelo” is here.

Click here for the Schilke HC2 trumpet that Diego plays.

And the Schilke 1040 Flugelhorn is here too.


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Gear Review · Interview

Van Laar Trumpets : Interview and Instrument Overview

Interview with Hub Van Laar (June 2018 @ ITG Conference, San Antonio)

What made you want to play brass in the first place?

As a child you had 2 options in my village. I began by playing football, and in my first game I scored 3 goals… in the wrong direction! It was then decided that I should go to the ‘Fanfare’ and play an instrument! I mainly played trombone and got to a very high level. I stopped playing however because of stage-fright. The nerves affected me so badly, and after trying hard to overcome this, I pursued the repairing.

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What made you want to get started with designing instruments?

It was funny – when I was 8, I said I wanted to be a trumpet-maker. I always had that goal. I don’t know why! I wanted to be a trumpet-maker and a farmer. I played in the local brass band, and I was thinking, “Somebody has to make these instruments”. The military band were looking for someone to repair. After that I went to work for a large Dutch manufacturer, and then had the opportunity to work for a small manufacturer in Stuttgart as part of a team of just 4 people. There you had to do everything, it was a great experience.

I have always loved my work and have never been a person that likes to have a day off. I am always happiest when I am busy. The workshop is just 46 seconds from my house!

What were the first models that you designed and built from scratch?

You start working out of necessity and repairing to earn money. I then started to adjust and adapt instruments and would get lots of players to play them to hear what they thought. I started with the flugelhorn because in Holland and Belgium we have ‘Fanfare’ groups with 10 or 15 flugelhorns. This was my market! The trumpets came after that, then the cornet, and now this year the piccolo trumpet is ready.

You have to be very careful bringing a new model onto the market, as if it is not quite ready, before you know it you have a bad reputation. I have to be 100% sure that it is perfect.

You have a number of very well-established models in your range now. Where they all designed with a particular sound or style in mind, or developed more for particular players?

In the beginning I worked with a number of players. The difficulty is that everybody tells you something different! The one unstable factor in an instrument setup is the player him or herself. With lots of players around me, I found that the quality got worse because you are constantly having to change things.

I now do most of the testing myself, and then take it to various players once I am completely happy with the design and setup. Listening to the customers is really important. I start a design by listening to what players need, I then go away and work on the technical stuff to create it. You learn this by doing it, it is not a case of reading a book and then knowing what to do. I believe this is a great strength.

Would you say that all of your trumpets across your entire range have particular characteristics that set them apart from many other makers?

They play in tune! It is also important to me that they look good. People’s first contact with my instruments is with their eyes so I need this to be good. The second thing people are interested in is the valves – if they are not perfectly smooth and responsive, they will put the instrument back down again. The third thing is when they start playing!

So, what’s next?!

Life is like sitting on the bullet train in Japan. Everything goes by so quick! At 40, I never worried about that, but after I hit 50, I think about that a lot. I intend to enjoy life more and work slightly less. I have a plan in place for 10 years’ time, for the company to go to a trusted friend who works with me, so that the good work can continue, and the name does not get lost!

Are there any new models that you are keen to explore?

The most important thing for me is that every new model and design is better than the last one. I am not able to spend a lot of money on marketing, so I have to make sure that the quality of my instruments speaks for itself. We just concentrate on one model at a time to ensure that everything is as good as it can be.

We have been working hard on the piccolo, and we have another C trumpet model, that I worked on with a player at the Concertgebouw. Our next investment is going to be in a CNC machine which will help a lot with our design processes. The most important thing for the future is maintaining the high quality that we have now.

Is there anything else that you would like to add?

It is not possible to make these instruments alone. Without Heidrun who deals with the business side, none of this would be possible. I cannot deal with that side of things, I just want to make great instruments.

Instrument Overview with Jesse McBee of Thompson Music:

“At Thompson Music, we are proud to be a dealer for Van Laar trumpets. Particularly, we’ve been impressed by the versatility of their product line, as well as the Van Laar team’s attention to detail, quality, and customer service. From their line of Bb trumpets, the most popular horns we sell and usually stock are the B1, B2, B4, B5 and B7, as well as the Oiram II and Oiram III.  From the flugelhorn line, we see much interest in the B2, B3, and Oiram Fresu.

As aforementioned, the Van Laar line is diverse enough to have an offering for every player’s performance demands. From lead trumpet, to chamber music, to solo playing, to small group jazz, there is a horn to fit that player’s needs. Additionally, several models serve as great all-around instruments should the player need an instrument for various playing demands. Van Laar’s attention to detail is impeccable, combining the benefits of a handmade product with modern quality control tolerances.  Our customers are consistently impressed with the quality and presentation of the product, as we have been when our orders arrive in the store.”

To see the full range of Van Laar trumpets and flugelhorns, please visit the Thompson Music website.


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